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.html :: http://forum.ericzlink.com/ :: Hurrah netsplits :: <McDouglas> i dont want to 
fap :: http://mmcomp.adsl.datanet.hu/price/'
09:19:03 * Set by WK!farkas@I.Love.Ridewords on Tue May 22 13:05:13
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12:08:38 <brum> kocsi
12:08:38 <brum> http://www.langlovagok.hu/html/galeria/683_1.shtml
12:08:52 <brum> well this wasnt "ours' :< 
12:13:13 <nyo> http://forum.ericzlink.com/files/may_26_07_woe_valk1_break.avi
12:13:16 <nyo> eric's vid
12:13:17 <nyo> ;d
12:14:05 <keeroy> seen...lmao.
12:14:08 <keeroy> insane shit
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12:48:07 <nyo> !price ancient cape [1]
12:48:11 <Kagura8> [Ancient Cape [1]] - [AVG(all): 38273333(3)] - [AVG(30): 
  38273333(3)] - [AVG(7): 38273333(3)] - [AVG(1): 39910000(2)]
12:48:26 <keeroy> nonslot
12:48:37 <keeroy> oh i see your point
12:48:45 <keeroy> trying to guess from the rate/material costs
12:52:15 <keeroy> so, how much?
12:55:04 <nyo> no idea
12:55:05 <nyo> lol
12:55:19 <keeroy> i want to scam one
12:55:20 <nyo> noone bothered selling them before the news of slotting
12:55:32 <keeroy> someone sells one who might not know the price
12:55:38 <keeroy> but i'll scam him with something else then
12:55:44 <nyo> is it grade A?
12:55:50 <nyo> if grade A is really 20%
12:56:03 <nyo> 1 elu + 400k  / attempt
12:56:23 <keeroy> rank A
12:56:23 <keeroy> yes
12:56:29 <keeroy> SO
12:56:32 <keeroy> it is worth 40m for instance
12:56:49 <keeroy> 10 tries := 10 elu + 4m
12:56:55 <keeroy> 5,6m 
12:56:56 <nyo> 5
12:57:02 <nyo> 5 tries, if it is 20%
12:57:03 <keeroy> elu aint 100k
12:57:16 <keeroy> elu is like 160
12:57:17 <nyo> so 5 elu + 2m
12:57:20 <keeroy> oh 20%
12:57:21 <keeroy> sry
12:57:35 <keeroy> so 2m + 10 elus = 2m+1,6m
12:57:38 <keeroy> 3.6 for the materials
12:57:45 <keeroy> not 10 elus lol, 5
12:57:51 <keeroy> 2,8m
12:58:08 <keeroy> (40-2,8)/5=ancient cape[0]
12:58:18 <keeroy> 3,72
12:58:18 <keeroy> nvm
12:58:22 <keeroy> not interested then
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13:14:07 * Topic is 'http://mysite.verizon.net/coolfish1103/iROChaosActiveAlliance/index4
.html :: http://forum.ericzlink.com/ :: Hurrah netsplits :: <McDouglas> i dont want to 
fap :: http://mmcomp.adsl.datanet.hu/price/'
13:14:07 * Set by WK!farkas@I.Love.Ridewords on Tue May 22 13:05:13
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13:38:09 <brum> boo
13:39:31 <nyo> ubububuu
13:42:03 <keeroy> ubuntu
13:42:21 <nyo> UИITINU
13:42:31 <brum> buu
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15:47:44 <McDouglas> re
15:52:14 <nyo> °º¤ÐîÂmØñÐWéÂÞØѤº° is online now
15:52:22 <nyo> Last Activity: Today 01:40 PM 
15:52:22 <nyo> Viewing Thread Auto-feeding-machine (legal?) ^^ @ 01:40 PM 
15:53:31 <brum> :>>>>>>.
15:54:43 <Diamond> haha
15:54:44 <Diamond> stop spying
15:54:54 <keeroy> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
15:58:16 <Diamond> how good / bad is steal lvl 5?
15:58:31 <keeroy> jock wants a sinx!
16:08:41 <nyo> Diamond: bad
16:11:52 <Diamond> why?
16:37:59 <McDouglas> cause wk says so
16:37:59 <McDouglas> !
16:38:13 <nyo> reason enough
16:38:14 <McDouglas> with 130 dex my steal lvl1 isnt that bad :P
16:38:19 <keeroy> mcd might i ask you to do something about the cseka to track the 
  berets?
16:38:35 <McDouglas> uhhh u ask the impassible!
16:38:47 <keeroy> impassable, maybe, but never impossible!
16:41:51 <nyo> it already does
16:41:53 <nyo> read back
16:42:44 <nyo> http://mmcomp.adsl.datanet.hu/price/index.php?iid=5172&custom=0&broken=0&e
  lement=&star_crumb=&card1ID=0&ROserver=Chaos&slots=0&card3ID=0&card4ID=0&card2ID=0
16:42:56 <keeroy> cool
16:43:09 <keeroy> "bonheur"
16:43:10 <keeroy> lol
16:43:16 <keeroy> that should be like boner in french
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16:53:01 <McDouglas> fixed
16:53:07 <McDouglas> (after next run)
16:53:18 <keeroy> what's fixed exactly ?
16:53:39 <McDouglas> replaced the item danem database with the current iro one
16:53:43 <McDouglas> -d
16:53:59 <McDouglas> *name :P
17:01:31 <keeroy> cool thank you
17:01:51 <nyo> he can do this and much more!
17:01:52 <nyo> :)
17:02:03 <keeroy> anyone selling an ice pick ?
17:10:05 <McDouglas> updated now
17:11:44 <Fishy> Nice screenshots.
17:12:58 <McDouglas> ftp://guest:tseug@mcdouglas.dyndns.org/screenChaos670.jpg
17:13:07 <McDouglas> what are those icons?
17:13:21 <McDouglas> the top 2
17:13:24 <brum> SL i guess
17:13:51 <Fishy> Was brum actually sieging last night?
17:13:59 <keeroy> yes
17:14:00 <brum> im on that screen, fagfish
17:14:05 <Fishy> Amazing.
17:14:21 <Fishy> How was the attendance?
17:14:29 <brum> ~30 ppl
17:14:36 <Fishy> oh
17:14:37 <McDouglas> ftp://guest:tseug@mcdouglas.dyndns.org/screenChaos671.jpg
17:14:46 <McDouglas> all the screenies i took :P
17:15:02 <Fishy> mcd I cannot see your screenshots.
17:15:13 <McDouglas> use IE/FF
17:15:19 <brum> golden shield?
17:15:37 <McDouglas> nah
17:15:43 <McDouglas> just crapy opera browser
17:15:56 <brum> :>
17:16:21 <Fishy> Who cares?
17:16:29 <McDouglas> yep ;)
17:16:29 <Fishy> Whatever the golden shield is =)
17:16:44 <Fishy> ...so 30 people?
17:16:52 <keeroy> 27
17:16:55 <keeroy> most awesome siege ever
17:16:57 <keeroy> for me
17:17:05 <Fishy> 27 out of?
17:17:12 <brum> ...lame
17:17:13 <keeroy> something.
17:17:25 <brum> why best siege
17:17:30 <brum> there were far better mael sieges
17:17:48 <Fishy> 27 out of ?
17:18:13 <McDouglas> 56
17:18:33 <Fishy> so the guild is filled with people?
17:18:33 <brum> is that some borg identification number? :D
17:19:57 <Fishy> so the guild is filled with people?
17:20:33 <McDouglas> ye
17:20:35 <nyo> NO
17:20:38 <nyo> 46
17:20:41 <nyo> 27/36
17:20:41 <Fishy> ok...
17:20:46 <nyo> 27/46*
17:21:20 <nyo> and this was with ppl that haven't decided wether to come back to mael or 
  not
17:21:31 <Fishy> Alright, I think I know what to do.
17:21:50 <nyo> did you read my post on hack forum
17:22:03 <Fishy> I did.
17:22:55 <Fishy> I am leaning toward suggest something that will probably kill the idea.
17:23:08 <Fishy> but anyways, I'll leave that to the end of June.
17:23:20 <nyo> don't suggest some crap like
17:23:29 <nyo> "let's join mael for siege and rejoin hack after siege"
17:23:32 <nyo> that is bullshit
17:24:23 <nyo> spiderman3 was crap btw
17:24:33 <Amy> i heard.
17:24:38 <nyo> ok not crap, but
17:24:55 <nyo> when spiderman jumps in front of the fullscreen USA flag and poses
17:25:01 <nyo> that's when i thought "bleh......"
17:25:26 <Amy> =p
17:25:38 <Fishy> lol
17:25:51 <nyo> another thing
17:26:10 <nyo> if you are familiar with the term "Uncanny Valley", it had a lot of these 
  moments
17:26:24 <Fishy> Spiderman 3 is just full of powerpoints.
17:26:34 <nyo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley
17:27:01 <nyo> it's an interesting read
17:28:30 <nyo> Fishy, you are chinese
17:28:33 <nyo> what do you eat in china?
17:28:38 <nyo> i just bought chinese food
17:28:52 <nyo> first was that jelly-like soup
17:29:00 <Fishy> Powerpoint Slideshows.
17:29:04 <nyo> sour-sweet ?
17:29:26 <Fishy> Morroc is getting plant cultivaed.
17:29:55 * McDouglas is listening to Loituma - ievas polka (basshunter remix) ^_^"
17:32:21 <Fishy> I wont suggest anything on guild forums about joining Maelstrom for WoE 
  then return to .hack after WoE.  If I decide to do it on my own and it creates a 
  problem for Maelstrom then I will stay out of Maelstrom =)
17:33:04 <Fishy> Jelly like soup? It's probably egg flower soup.
17:33:07 <nyo> yea
17:33:11 <Fishy> Sweet and Sour Pork?
17:33:11 <nyo> that
17:33:13 <nyo> no
17:33:29 <nyo> you mean egg flour, right?
17:33:50 <Fishy> Flower
17:33:54 <nyo> it tastes a bit sour and spicy yet sweet at the same time
17:33:56 <Fishy> Direct translation
17:34:08 <Fishy> That's Hot and Sour Soup
17:34:09 <nyo> oh
17:34:17 <Fishy> Should be dark-ish colored.
17:34:25 <nyo> yes
17:34:29 <nyo> is it popular in china?
17:34:37 <Fishy> Quite popular.
17:34:57 <Fishy> ...so LD is quitting *again*
17:35:07 <keeroy> just changing name
17:35:15 <nyo> again?:
17:35:20 <nyo> they never quit before
17:35:26 <Fishy> oh, again refers to the alliance.
17:35:43 <Fishy> How one of their guilds turn into something else overtime.
17:35:49 <nyo> well GOLD has been probably the longest standing alliance
17:35:49 <Fishy> Rinse and repeat.
17:36:04 <keeroy> that was formed in like 2004?
17:36:04 <keeroy> or so
17:36:10 <Fishy> 2004? err..
17:36:18 <keeroy> gold was there in 2004.
17:36:19 <nyo> early 2005
17:36:28 <Fishy> 2005 sounds right.
17:36:37 <nyo> when apex went solo
17:36:40 <keeroy> i was playing my sader on 2004 sept and the alliance was formed that 
  time
17:36:44 <nyo> and deity joined GOLD
17:36:48 <keeroy> i mean that was standing
17:36:48 <Fishy> It's not original anyways, *switches*
17:37:13 <Fishy> Do remember the original GOLD is suppose to be GoW, Tormentors, LD, and 
  Deity.
17:37:53 <Fishy> The Apex thing you are referring to is AUS? I think... or USA?
17:38:05 <Fishy> Apex, Seren, Untouchables I think.
17:38:29 <nyo> yea
17:38:35 <nyo> no
17:38:38 <nyo> lol
17:38:45 <nyo> AUS and GOLD have fought each other
17:39:20 <nyo> Apex -> Mael, DC
17:39:23 <nyo> Seren -> UW
17:39:49 <nyo> UT is still UT, but i heard from a former UT member that the leader 
  doesn't seem to give a damn about the guild
17:40:26 <Fishy> Oh.
17:41:22 <nyo> well some Apex also joined Windfall and Celestial
17:41:23 <Fishy> I dont know much about UT, they dont seem to be up to the par.
17:41:31 <nyo> up to the par?
17:41:32 <nyo> :))
17:41:34 <Fishy> aka Dragon Blanco?
17:42:01 <Fishy> Yeah, up to the par.
17:42:13 <nyo> yea
17:42:23 <nyo> "on par with"
17:42:26 <nyo> is the correct term
17:42:38 <Fishy> =)
17:43:07 * nyo pets Fishypedia
17:43:47 <Fishy> on par w/the alliance.
17:44:08 <Fishy> GoW disappeared again? or just dont take forts.
17:51:35 <Fishy> I guess I have to replace Justin from the team since his cousin is 
  giving me some weird infos
17:52:14 <keeroy> he said it's his brother to me
17:52:20 <keeroy> forgot the name again
17:52:22 <keeroy> joshua!
17:52:26 <keeroy> it came to my mind again.
17:52:34 <Fishy> Yes
17:52:42 <keeroy> i asked about the trip
17:52:46 <Fishy> He said Justin came home last night and took some clothes then left.
17:52:49 <keeroy> and gf
17:52:55 <Fishy> Now they dont know where he is and etc.
17:53:01 <keeroy> he said justin said nothing about the trip
17:53:10 <keeroy> but joshua said they broke up
17:53:12 <keeroy> wtf
17:53:17 <keeroy> because he does not love that girl as he says
17:53:23 <Fishy> ?
17:53:23 <keeroy> why going on a week long trip then ?
17:53:28 <keeroy> whatever. so really weird.
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17:54:19 <Fishy> He hasnt practice with us at all and I cant even get a hold of him.
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17:56:53 <nyo> he sold his account
17:56:56 <nyo> keeroy, change your pass
17:56:57 <nyo> ;p
17:57:01 <Fishy> Who?
17:57:05 <nyo> jsutin
17:57:11 <Fishy> o_O
17:57:20 <Fishy> Justin sold his account to who?
17:57:30 <nyo> anyway, keeroy change your pass and when justin comes back and you can 
  confirm that it is him, you can change it back to the former
17:57:32 <keeroy> to his brother/cousin?
17:57:45 <nyo> or whoever claims to be his brother/cousin
17:57:55 <nyo> anyway, i thought it was Sain- on it
17:58:03 <nyo> who is neither his brother nor his cousin
17:58:04 <nyo> but a friend
17:58:12 <nyo> so... the plot thickens
17:58:13 <Fishy> err
17:58:13 <nyo> :))
17:58:22 <Fishy> What... the... heck
17:58:59 <Fishy> Is that why he isnt back in Maelstrom?
17:59:18 <Fishy> Cause everyone in Maelstrom before is now back in Maelstrom =)
17:59:26 <nyo> not true
17:59:30 <nyo> Tom is still in hack as well
17:59:39 <Fishy> Isn't he from Valhalla?
17:59:41 <nyo> and eddie too
17:59:45 <nyo> no, he was in mael
17:59:49 <nyo> both were in mael
17:59:55 <Fishy> but they went to VaIhalla no?
18:00:02 <Amy> at one point, i think.
18:00:04 <nyo> no,they were both in valhalla
18:00:09 <nyo> and then joined mael right when eric quit
18:00:10 <Fishy> It was not an immediate turnover.
18:00:35 <Fishy> I guess I can tell you what I am going to suggest =P
18:00:38 <nyo> so they were in mael and joined hack for siege only
18:00:47 <nyo> until i have told them to join hack perm
18:00:54 <nyo> do tell
18:01:04 <Fishy> Like you said
18:01:09 <nyo> i'll probably have something to say against it tho :p
18:01:21 <Fishy> 50% of the current .hack members only log on for WoE.
18:01:34 <keeroy> or more.
18:01:36 <Fishy> 50% of the current .hack members do not log on for 90% of the time.
18:01:47 <keeroy> yes this seems accurate now
18:02:05 <Fishy> ...so
18:02:33 <Fishy> If you move all those people to Maelstrom, those 50% people who do not 
  log on dont get moved.
18:02:38 <nyo> nono
18:02:44 <Fishy> The other 50% of the member might get moved.
18:02:49 <nyo> i am trying to convince those ppl that still hesitate
18:03:02 <nyo> hao, stephie, pam, tom, B, amy, you
18:03:04 <Fishy> or I should say, might move =)
18:03:05 <keeroy> ow
18:03:09 <keeroy> we killed 2 skeggs
18:03:11 <keeroy> 2 soft feathers
18:03:27 <Fishy> Isn't B already in Maelstrom?
18:03:28 <keeroy> he is.
18:03:37 <Fishy> ...so it's convinced.
18:03:44 <nyo> he is?
18:03:57 <Fishy> Amy isn't but B is.
18:04:05 <Fishy> The post you made with Alli kind of killed some of the hangers.
18:04:11 <Amy> i'm fine with the mael idea.
18:04:34 <nyo> well B complained a lot earlier already when i joined GoW for a short 
  while, that
18:04:45 <keeroy> nyo> valk mvp is out. gonna come help us ?
18:04:54 <nyo> he would like to join a guild with an active leader so much
18:04:59 <nyo> keeroy: how...... i can't
18:05:05 <keeroy> work?
18:05:09 <nyo> duh?
18:05:10 <Fishy> nyo = work no?
18:05:13 <nyo> 48h
18:05:14 <keeroy> oh really
18:05:16 <keeroy> forgot that.
18:05:22 <keeroy> gosh, 48h straight ?
18:05:37 <nyo> 48h of watching movies/anime and sleeping
18:05:38 <nyo> :))
18:05:42 <nyo> marathon!
18:05:53 <nyo> and trolling forums ofcourse
18:06:20 <nyo> oh, forgot to add zuki
18:06:31 <nyo> and namu
18:06:32 <nyo> :))
18:06:34 <keeroy> yeah
18:06:37 <nyo> and tim!!
18:06:38 <nyo> ffs
18:06:39 <keeroy> i loved playing the guitar at work
18:07:28 <Amy> so .hack plans to do the merge at the beginning of june still?
18:07:40 <nyo> i have no idea what the plan is
18:07:54 <nyo> regardless, so 5 ppl from hack that were former mael are back in mael now
18:08:00 <nyo> and mael still had an attendance of 27
18:08:02 <Amy> :(
18:08:02 <Fishy> The plan is not settled.
18:08:05 <nyo> granted one was from DC
18:08:28 <Fishy> Yeah, so Maelstrom is quite strong with hack.
18:08:33 <Fishy> without*
18:08:35 <nyo> also like 6-7 were from Roman Empire
18:08:47 <nyo> wave dash, alex krycek, lunapple
18:08:51 <nyo> uh, who else
18:08:56 <nyo> oddly enough i didn't see ray today
18:12:28 <Fishy> Ray?
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18:16:05 <Amy> EvilSuper etc, I think? maybe xD
18:16:09 <keeroy> yes!
18:16:21 <Fishy> What about him?
18:16:23 <keeroy> the guy who's playing super cool with a super lame champ build
18:17:24 <Amy> or aka the 97 baby bard or 99 ninja.
18:18:23 <nyo> or 9x sinX
18:18:47 <nyo> Amy: i've been snatching in bio3 yesterday!
18:18:49 <nyo> hmmm
18:18:53 * nyo slaps Diamond
18:18:54 <nyo> :)
18:19:08 <Diamond> sup
18:19:11 <nyo> it was fun
18:19:14 <nyo> didn't regret going
18:19:18 <nyo> gained +1 joblvl
18:19:18 <nyo> ;d
18:19:22 <Diamond> cool
18:19:26 <nyo> and about +10% base hahah
18:19:28 <Diamond> was it anek's party?
18:19:36 <nyo> Evil Soy Bean and Pokles
18:19:45 <nyo> Pokles is getting job70 on her HP
18:19:56 <Amy> i've heard the changes in bio3 aren't so bad.
18:19:59 <nyo> and she also did sensing two chars for a leech
18:20:06 <nyo> it's still playable
18:20:38 <Diamond> we could do small parties
18:20:42 <Diamond> trio or something
18:20:42 <Amy> i guess it doesn't matter with me, really. my chars just stay in party 
  area anyways
18:20:50 <Diamond> instead of waiting all day for a big one
18:20:57 <keeroy> jocke
18:21:03 <keeroy> currently doing teh hot deal ;D
18:21:04 <keeroy> sec and back
18:21:08 <Diamond> nice
18:21:42 <nyo> well
18:21:50 <nyo> currently too many ppl are in rachel and ice dungeon imo
18:21:52 <nyo> hunting and shit
18:22:01 <nyo> but i think bio3 will get popular again
18:22:10 <nyo> btw
18:22:15 <nyo> noone is killing the bio3 mvp
18:22:19 <nyo> think we could do it ?
18:24:00 <Amy> i wonder how much people are willing to pay for berets atm.
18:24:13 <nyo> 10m easy
18:24:14 <nyo> hahahah
18:24:27 <Diamond> yeah we could do it probably
18:24:40 <Amy> i'll prolly just sell baph's and mine
18:24:41 <Amy> find more later
18:24:42 <Diamond> you, me, tom, zuki
18:24:48 <nyo> tom on what?
18:24:51 <nyo> why zuki?
18:24:57 <Diamond> a scholar?
18:25:05 <nyo> your scholar is perfect for that 
18:25:05 <Diamond> tom on champ and HP maybe
18:25:09 <Fishy> What I am going to suggest is: People who wants to join Maelstrom feel 
  free to join Maelstrom, people who wants to stay with .hack just stay with .hack.  The 
  two guilds can work with each other like the old times, and does not need to merge.  
  If Dei desires to join Maelstrom and co-leads with Kiryuu, then people who does not 
  join will value his choice.
18:25:13 <nyo> tom on HP is a good idea, champ is a nono
18:25:31 <keeroy> so
18:25:35 <keeroy> ice falch for 35m
18:25:36 <keeroy> and 400 oris for 10m
18:25:37 <keeroy> 25k/each
18:25:47 <nyo> Fishy: stupid idea, why would mael want to work together with a dead guild
18:25:58 <Diamond> yeah let's not
18:26:14 <Fishy> If Maelstrom does not want to work with the remaining members in .hack, 
  then Maelstrom can do things on their own.
18:26:24 <nyo> that's the plan
18:26:25 <Diamond> why do you feel like that?
18:26:30 <Diamond> why not just join Mael?
18:26:40 <keeroy> no one is forced to join mael
18:26:48 <keeroy> who wants will move, know doesn't, will stay
18:26:55 <nyo> because they want to uphold the nothingness
18:26:56 <keeroy> how can you guys make this that complicated?
18:26:59 <nyo> they are nihilists
18:27:20 <nyo> yea either way, i'll talk to those i would love to see in mael personally
18:27:24 <nyo> starting with Amy
18:27:26 <nyo> hi Amy
18:27:40 <Fishy> lol~
18:27:53 <keeroy> Diamond> sec
18:27:55 <nyo> i know Amy left mael for hack back then only because he was afraid of the 
  big bad eric
18:28:03 <nyo> she*
18:28:10 <Fishy> o.o
18:28:10 <Amy> haha what.
18:28:12 <nyo> eric aet lolis
18:28:55 <Amy> i don't remember if i left before mael died?
18:29:11 <nyo> you did
18:29:15 <Fishy> I think you were in Loki?
18:29:19 <nyo> no
18:29:22 <nyo> you joined mael with B a day before i did
18:29:26 <Fishy> when Maelstrom is gone or something.
18:29:30 <nyo> this was before loki thing
18:29:43 <nyo> and then after a week or so you left for hack
18:29:46 <nyo> and B went after you
18:29:54 <Amy> don't remember why.
18:30:02 <nyo> and B said something like you didn't feel well in mael, as in it was too 
  hardcore for you or something
18:30:11 <Amy> lol
18:30:12 <Fishy> I doubt Amy left for hack cause of that.  Amy does not even talk in 
  .hack at the beginning.
18:30:28 <nyo> yes, that's why B got even more frustrated
18:30:33 <nyo> and moved back with her to lowkey
18:30:49 <nyo> in hopes of amy cheering up
18:30:57 <nyo> this is my theory btw, don't take this word for word
18:30:58 <nyo> :))
18:31:07 <Diamond> you know so much
18:31:13 <nyo> and then when i nagged B enough, he came back to chaos
18:31:19 <nyo> end of story
18:31:21 <nyo> hahaha
18:31:24 <Amy> he knows more than i do about me, haha.
18:31:33 * nyo is awsm
18:31:40 <nyo> Amy: this is when B tells me to shut up
18:31:48 <Diamond> lol
18:31:53 <Diamond> kee
18:31:54 <Diamond> come back
18:31:54 <Fishy> lol
18:32:03 <Amy> i was pretty shy with chaos for awhile.
18:32:30 <nyo> it's ok, you still are
18:32:37 <nyo> anyway
18:32:40 <nyo> nvm
18:32:40 <Fishy> Oh... to respond that comment about upholding nothing <-
18:32:52 <nyo> you already said you are fine with joining mael
18:32:56 <nyo> so on to the next person
18:32:58 <nyo> hi Fishypedia
18:32:59 <nyo> :)
18:33:09 <Fishy> What
18:33:13 <Diamond> sounds like he changed his mind though
18:33:18 <nyo> who
18:33:24 <Fishy> I think he is saying that to Amy.
18:33:24 <Diamond> fish
18:33:26 <nyo> i was talking about amy
18:33:29 <nyo> yea
18:33:37 <Fishy> Jocke I am smart =P
18:33:43 <nyo> sometimes!
18:34:07 <Diamond> I'm busy in-game
18:34:19 <Fishy> According to you, I belong to the group of upholding nothingness.
18:34:19 <nyo> standard irc response
18:34:33 <nyo> no Fishy, you should join mael for the friends alone
18:34:48 <nyo> why would you want to be in a guild with full of ppl that only log on for 
  siege
18:34:58 <Fishy> Who are my friends?
18:35:01 <Diamond> why do you not want to join, Fish?
18:35:21 <nyo> who are your friends?
18:35:32 <nyo> or rather
18:35:41 <nyo> which friends is RO worth playing for
18:36:00 <Fishy> I am different from you guys, I dont have much time devoted to this 
  game anymore.
18:36:07 <nyo> lies
18:36:15 <Fishy> =P
18:36:19 <Fishy> It's true.
18:36:32 <nyo> you WISH you could have much time devoted, but you can't devote to it 
  because of your RL duties
18:36:54 <Fishy> Whats the difference?
18:37:01 <nyo> anyway, which friends is RO worth playing for, those that log on to chat 
  with you and play with you, or those that you can chat on the forums and reminisce
18:37:02 <Fishy> I can't devote my time to this.
18:37:50 <nyo> well, from my point of view devotion is a choice
18:37:56 <Fishy> According to what I read on the post B and Eric made.
18:37:57 <nyo> you can make of it what you want
18:38:01 <nyo> as you shape it so to say
18:38:38 <Fishy> It makes no difference to merge the guild because Eric will be busy 
  when Fall Semester arrives (which I think should be August), and Dei will probably 
  have to take over the lead.
18:38:55 <Fishy> Then, the difference this makes would be
18:39:01 <Fishy> Dei gets to use a SinX with 2 belts and a GTB.
18:39:16 <nyo> he said only weds probably
18:39:32 <Fishy> Another thing it will do would be: Release Zizi from his duties as a 
  guild leader.
18:39:51 <nyo> which is good
18:40:06 <nyo> did i mention mael got two forts?
18:40:26 <Amy> we know ;p
18:40:36 <nyo> wasn't hard to notice, yea
18:41:25 <Fishy> Unless an emergency occurs, I should be available every Wednesday and 
  Saturday siege until my Fall semester starts (beginning of September.) At that point, 
  depending on how things are going, it should be easy for Dei to take over leadership 
  duties on Wednesdays.
18:41:34 <Fishy> What's the difference?
18:42:09 <Fishy> I look forward to fun times with you guys if this works out. While I'm 
  not too enthused about playing the game, it should be fun for me to chat and siege 
  with you guys and other people again. School work leaves me with pretty much little 
  social interaction anymore, so this shouldn't be too bad. Just don't count on me to be 
  enthusiastic about leveling and other things. Korean MMORPG grinding bores me.
18:42:28 <nyo> At that point, 4depending on how things are going,
18:42:45 <Fishy> Well, that's a doubt.
18:42:57 <nyo> which means he can still log on and chat on RO as a past time
18:43:17 <nyo> since he got it sorted out on how to schedule his daily life after his 
  first year
18:43:49 <Fishy> Second, I dont like the way he leads WoE.
18:43:55 <nyo> http://www.lolwut.com/pics/woman.jpg
18:43:59 <nyo> who?
18:44:05 <Fishy> However, some people like Tim likes.
18:44:17 <keeroy> :DDDDDDD
18:44:33 <Fishy> and some people like Pam doesnt like it.
18:44:38 <Fishy> I wont elaborate on that.
18:44:49 <Fishy> Most people will join Maelstrom for the sake to release Zi from the 
  duty.
18:45:13 <nyo> i have yet to see a better woe leader
18:45:20 <nyo> altho he was a bit rusty yesterday :)))))
18:45:24 <nyo> but it was still going damn fine
18:45:38 <nyo> we severly lacked priests tho
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18:48:02 <Fishy> The only thing I even considered was join Maelstrom for siege time 
  only, since that's the only time I even bother to log.
18:48:31 <nyo> you'd log on more if you were in the US
18:48:35 <Fishy> Although I dont like how its handled, but it's better than do nothing, 
  unless I decide to quit.
18:48:38 <nyo> regardless, you are welcome to join for siege
18:48:55 <nyo> i just doubt the guild would go along with this with like 20 ppl wanting 
  to join
18:49:24 <Fishy> Go along with what?
18:49:51 <Diamond> only sieging
18:50:17 <Fishy> Elaborate, doesnt make sense to me.
18:51:41 <Fishy> ...or you mean if about 20 people wanting to join under this condition, 
  the guild wont like it?
18:52:19 <nyo> 20 ppl joining mael from hack just for siege and then leaving after siege 
  is over
18:52:22 <nyo> the guild won't like it
18:52:34 <Fishy> oh
18:52:59 <Fishy> Any difference between that, and 20 people who joined and only shows up 
  for siege?
18:53:14 <nyo> i told you already about this
18:53:32 <nyo> if the members see that the leader is more active, they are more inclined 
  to be active as well
18:53:41 <nyo> when eric 99ed his sinX, i 99ed my rogue for example
18:53:42 <Fishy> Maybe.
18:53:44 <nyo> because i saw motivation
18:54:01 <nyo> also i constantly had ppl to talk to in guild
18:54:13 <Fishy> I am pretty sure there won't be 20 people doing that from .hack, so no 
  worries.
18:54:18 <nyo> eric told me he saw a lot of hack members that are in hack for siege 
  level alternate chars outside of hack
18:54:33 <nyo> well
18:54:38 <nyo> you are making this complicated
18:54:46 <nyo> anyway, i will still talk to everyone personally
18:54:46 <Fishy> ?
18:54:58 <nyo> i mean you are making this sound too complicated
18:55:13 <nyo> you say like the willingness to log on or to join mael is unanonymous
18:55:33 <Fishy> No, more like whether I want to join Maelstrom, or quit.
18:55:46 <Diamond> what's the point in quitting
18:55:48 <nyo> http://dfx.at/~kowy/jes_doesnt_know_the_lyrics.jpg
18:55:49 <keeroy> fish you and some others are constantly threatening us with quits
18:55:55 <keeroy> you won't achieve anything with this
18:55:55 <Diamond> it would be the same thing
18:55:59 <Fishy> I am not threatening you.
18:56:05 <keeroy> not me, the guild itself
18:56:07 <keeroy> which i'm part of
18:56:08 <Fishy> Why would I threat you?
18:56:16 <keeroy> not me, everyone
18:56:27 <keeroy> there is no solution for this thing what everyone would like
18:56:31 <Fishy> <- Me quitting makes no difference in Maelstrom building up.
18:56:36 <keeroy> i didn't like defending DSs castle
18:56:40 <keeroy> nor aureus's
18:56:41 <keeroy> i was there GKing
18:56:48 <nyo> Valour's
18:56:49 <keeroy> and didn't say i'll quit because i don't like this piece of shit
18:56:53 <keeroy> and yes, it was a piece of shit
18:56:54 <nyo> we didn't defend DS' castle
18:56:58 <keeroy> i took it
18:56:58 <nyo> maybe he really wants to quit :(
18:57:02 <keeroy> whatever, <$guildname>
18:57:07 <nyo> bye Fishypedia, we will miss you :'(
18:57:13 <Fishy> I think I said in the forums I dont like the alliance o.O
18:57:27 <nyo> so
18:57:27 <keeroy> yes, and the solution wasn't quitting
18:57:28 <Fishy> But the decision is made, so what can I do =P
18:57:30 <nyo> join mael!
18:57:31 <keeroy> it was talking and making a decision
18:57:38 <keeroy> NOT quitting.
18:57:57 <Fishy> The solution was - I take off from the guild for a short while that 
  probably didnt matter much.
18:58:06 <Diamond> in hack, you siege with hack people
18:58:08 <Fishy> I was gonna quit around that time~
18:58:14 <Diamond> in mael, you'd siege with hack AND mael people
18:58:14 <Diamond> how is that bad?
18:58:32 <Fishy> Bad o.o?
18:58:41 <nyo> he doesn't like eric
18:58:47 <Diamond> yeah it's obviously bad because you are like "maybe I should quit 
  LOOOOOOL"
18:58:48 <nyo> prolly because eric doesn't listen to him
18:58:56 <nyo> Fishy: http://www.ragnainfo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19703&page=29 
  still no new post
18:58:59 <keeroy> fish, you either join maelstrom or not join maelstrom. i don't see any 
  other options
18:59:03 <Fishy> I never worked with Eric <-
18:59:15 <keeroy> we cannot make maelstrom with mael+hack people under the name of hack
18:59:16 <Fishy> so that statement does not hold whether he listens to me or not.
18:59:17 <keeroy> technically impossible
18:59:35 <Fishy> oh wk
18:59:43 <Fishy> I will keep that site updated, I'll just bug people about it.
19:00:03 <Fishy> unless I get tired or people dont utilize that site anymore =)
19:01:21 <nyo> Fishywishy
19:01:45 <nyo> i'll keep calling him names until he caves in and joins mael
19:02:06 <Fishy> WK, like you said, I think you should talk to each of the people you 
  listed privately, as I do know some people intend to just join for siege.
19:02:30 <Fishy> There's nothing wrong with Fishywishy, Stephie made the name =D
19:03:09 <Fishy> ...and I wont suggest anything relating to this on the forums, since I 
  already said it here.  No point to do so.
19:06:08 <Fishy> I might ask Esther to see if she can hook me up an account for RO2 =DDD
19:07:50 <Fishy> WK, I also think that emblem you chose on Sugar's list best fists.
19:07:54 <Fishy> fits*
19:07:59 <nyo> ;D
19:08:22 <Diamond> I don't like any of those
19:08:27 <Fishy> lol
19:08:27 <Diamond> I want the original mael emblem
19:08:30 <nyo> lol
19:08:40 <Fishy> The apotheosis one?
19:08:55 <Diamond> no, the one we always use 
19:09:00 <Fishy> The blue glitter.
19:09:44 <Fishy> ...and I want to say this again, "this decision is not a threat."
19:10:15 <Fishy> I had this in my mind a while ago when I join .hack <- the last guild I 
  will join in RO before I quit =)
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:51:28 wkwr0x: who made the original logo anyway?
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:51:45 EricZLink: some alqua person
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:51:46 wkwr0x: i remember seeing a different drawing on the old mael 
  site
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:51:49 wkwr0x: ahhhhhhhhh
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:52:01 wkwr0x: allie's yuropean boifriend
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:52:10 EricZLink: something like that
19:10:25 <nyo> 11:52:19 wkwr0x: i think he made valours and some other guild's too
19:10:40 <Fishy> If it werent hao and nico, I probably already quitted.
19:11:05 <Fishy> Anyhow, enough of this.
19:11:35 <Fishy> As of now, it will be join for siege or quitting =D
19:11:40 <Fishy> Nite~
19:11:45 * Fishy (~coolfish1@C9A5CAB8.593B24AC.A2AB3E2E.IP) Quit
19:12:03 <nyo> i say we permban fishy from irc until he reconsiders
19:12:14 <nyo> since he is addicted to irc
19:12:20 <nyo> he won't be able to say no
19:14:03 <nyo> 12:08:34 EricZLink: I swear I came up with a lot of cheap shit on my own 
  on iRO and now the entire server does it =( they even banned portal recall =(((((((((((
19:14:03 <nyo> 12:08:43 wkwr0x: hahaha
19:14:03 <nyo> 12:08:44 EricZLink: I think you gave me the ideaon that one, though
19:14:22 <nyo> ! ;p
19:14:24 <nyo> he remembers
19:15:06 <nyo> portal recall was lame tho, we only did it during the valk4 days
19:15:23 <nyo> it was gay, all we amounted to was lagging everyone out, including 
  ourselves
19:15:57 <keeroy> even XELLIE does that
19:15:57 <keeroy> how dreadful
19:16:49 <nyo> i'm pretty sure mael was first to
19:16:55 <nyo> - massive LoD farm
19:17:06 <nyo> - portalrecall
19:17:09 <nyo> - delayrecall
19:17:15 <nyo> - siege emblemless
19:17:46 <nyo> there were also more firsts ;p
19:18:00 <keeroy> - get banned for ebaying
19:18:06 <nyo> never happend
19:18:10 <keeroy> jk
19:18:10 <nyo> mael also had the most top10 99s besides LnP
19:18:21 <nyo> i think?
19:19:07 <nyo> 3 mael
19:19:13 <nyo> eric, liping, warlord
19:19:30 <nyo> 4 LnP ?
19:19:35 <nyo> that's 7
19:19:38 <nyo> then there was steve
19:20:25 <nyo> Diamond did you read, Gloom gets a new axe with 11.2
19:20:25 <nyo> drop
19:20:36 <keeroy> doing valk atm
19:20:37 <nyo> which will be very good for mastersmith
19:20:40 <nyo> ehe
19:23:49 <nyo> http://ropd.somatika.net/?account=176413&dir=asc
19:23:53 <nyo> wow it updated my HP
19:24:01 <nyo> altho still in hack lol
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19:56:00 <Baphy> fgts
19:56:22 <nyo> that's right
19:56:34 <nyo> those who say A also must say B
19:56:48 <nyo> (dunno how this proverb should sound in english exactly)
19:57:07 <nyo> Wer A sagt, muss auch B sagen!
19:57:13 <keeroy> !
19:58:27 <nyo> i can already see baka's flav
19:58:28 <Diamond> AB
19:58:33 <nyo> flaw*
19:58:37 <nyo> Diamond, goo
19:58:37 <nyo> d
19:58:50 <Baphy> I'll reply. One sec.
19:59:00 <nyo> Acid Bomb, Azure Breeze
19:59:09 <nyo> Amy Brian ?!
19:59:11 <Diamond> Amy & B
19:59:26 <Diamond> I was a few mili sec faster
19:59:45 <nyo> if Amy and B will ever have a kids, they'll name them C, D and E
19:59:52 <Diamond> lol
20:00:07 <nyo> or L, S and D ?
20:00:09 <nyo> who knows.........
20:00:17 <nyo> Lucy in the Sky with Diamond
20:00:22 <Diamond> S, E and X
20:00:29 <nyo> lol
20:00:35 <Baphy> C is taking care of in my last name
20:00:41 <nyo> oh right
20:00:45 <Baphy> Taken*
20:00:50 <nyo> Carlsson
20:00:51 <nyo> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
20:00:54 <nyo> get it?
20:00:57 <nyo> Jocke Andersson
20:01:01 <nyo> Brian Carlsson
20:01:07 <nyo> you two must be related
20:01:10 <Diamond> lol
20:01:20 <nyo> unless it's Carlson
20:01:26 <Diamond> wolf kooch
20:01:31 <nyo> lol
20:01:35 <Diamond> =)
20:01:50 <Baphy> Wolfie Koochie
20:01:58 <nyo> ok, you can stop now!
20:02:10 <nyo> it says Koch Farkas Dávid on my ID anyway
20:02:10 <Baphy> Bad memories from grade school?
20:02:16 <nyo> no, not at all lol
20:02:23 <Baphy> David?
20:02:26 <nyo> yea
20:02:27 <Baphy> So you're a Davey too?
20:02:31 <nyo> sssssssshhhhhhhh
20:02:43 <nyo> i didn't use David since grade school for realz
20:02:54 <nyo> well
20:02:59 <nyo> i always introduced myself as david
20:03:11 <nyo> until accidentally a teacher not aware of this called me always Farkas 
  during class
20:03:27 <nyo> and i liked the sound of it, so ever since then i kept using that one 
  instead
20:03:31 <keeroy> that's a great name though
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20:04:02 <nyo> Diamond: what is jocke in english? john?
20:04:12 <Diamond> no
20:04:15 <Diamond> I have no idea
20:04:15 <keeroy> then what!
20:04:18 <nyo> James?
20:04:18 <nyo> lol
20:04:20 <keeroy> gawd
20:04:22 <Diamond> there is no equalent
20:04:28 <keeroy> there must be one!
20:04:29 <nyo> hmmmm, could be like Björn
20:04:32 <keeroy> lmao
20:04:44 <nyo> actually Björn = Brown = Bruno = Barna
20:05:12 <nyo> could be like Holger then
20:05:26 <nyo> Diamond, do you have Holgerssons?
20:05:39 <Diamond> nah never heard of that
20:06:24 <nyo> never heard of Niels Holgersson ?
20:06:29 <nyo> or was it Holgerson
20:06:54 <nyo> wow wtf wikipe can't find it
20:07:13 <nyo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_no_Fushigi_na_Tabi
20:07:20 <nyo> The Wonderful Adventures of Nils (Japanese: ニルスのふしぎな旅) is an anime 
  adaptation of the novel The Wonderful Adventures of Nils by the Swedish author Selma 
  Lagerlöf.
20:07:36 <nyo> Nils Holgerssons underbara resa genom Sverige (1906-07) "The Wonderful 
  Adventures of Nils"
20:07:54 <nyo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Holgerssons_underbara_resa_genom_Sverige
20:08:12 <nyo> i had a classmate named Holger in germany
20:08:13 <Baphy> I'm thinking it'd be a good idea for me to stop posting on .hack forums.
20:08:14 <keeroy> hm
20:08:17 <keeroy> ice falchion sold right away
20:08:19 <keeroy> great
20:08:27 <nyo> lol B
20:10:19 <nyo> we had quite a debate with fish here earlier
20:10:28 <nyo> until he abruptly escaped to his bedchamber
20:10:40 <Baphy> =[
20:10:50 <Baphy> Was it about hackMael?
20:10:55 <nyo> yes, ofcourse
20:11:01 <nyo> want the log?
20:11:09 <Baphy> Sure or just a highlight
20:11:23 <Baphy> I have to be finishing homeworks asap
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